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		<title>By: Leonard Mong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard Mong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Noma Kisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A company proposal is created to reflect the professionalism of your organisation and is there to persuade a buyer that your goods or providers are useful to them. Together with any other collateral it&#039;s the proposition that you are giving towards the customer and what will hopefully win much more function for that company.</description>
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		<title>By: Maggie Pallet</title>
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		<title>By: Emma Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma Porter</dc:creator>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: argyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>argyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron

another issue is with this statement:

&quot;NPV and IRR are related to each other:
(1) If NPV = 0
(2) Then IRR = Cost of Capital&quot;

IRR is not CC. IRR concept is a bit involved, I wont get into details. In capital budgeting one of the project acceptance criteria is IRR &gt; CC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron</p>
<p>another issue is with this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;NPV and IRR are related to each other:<br />
(1) If NPV = 0<br />
(2) Then IRR = Cost of Capital&#8221;</p>
<p>IRR is not CC. IRR concept is a bit involved, I wont get into details. In capital budgeting one of the project acceptance criteria is IRR &gt; CC.</p>
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		<title>By: argyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron

I don&#039;t think that you need WACC at this level of discussion. It&#039;s for debt vs equity financing.

I also saw some people looking at IT projects as real options.

argyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that you need WACC at this level of discussion. It&#8217;s for debt vs equity financing.</p>
<p>I also saw some people looking at IT projects as real options.</p>
<p>argyn</p>
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		<title>By: argyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>argyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron

there are several issues with your post in PV/NPV/CV
computation parts. For example, your ROI computation
for proj A is a bit strange. Your investment is
100000, so your ROI must be based off of this value
somehow. The easiest way is to get the yield (aka
IRR).

You have to look at cash outflows and inflows.
Outflows are your investments, inflows are returns.

In your case you get ROI = NPV/PV. Think of this: you
divide by the present value of future cashflows
outflows. So your base is not your investment, but
rather returns, then why do you call this ROI (return
on _investment_)?

You could do ROI=NPV/IV, but that&#039;s not good either,
because NPV has taken into account your RRR (required
rate of return). Why dont you simply get IRR? It has
its own issues too, and finance professors usually
prefer NPV approach to proj financing.

sorry, for being a bit harsh with critique. however, I
find your approach interesting, especially the
relation to &quot;ethics&quot;. that&#039;s unusual :) 

thanks
argyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron</p>
<p>there are several issues with your post in PV/NPV/CV<br />
computation parts. For example, your ROI computation<br />
for proj A is a bit strange. Your investment is<br />
100000, so your ROI must be based off of this value<br />
somehow. The easiest way is to get the yield (aka<br />
IRR).</p>
<p>You have to look at cash outflows and inflows.<br />
Outflows are your investments, inflows are returns.</p>
<p>In your case you get ROI = NPV/PV. Think of this: you<br />
divide by the present value of future cashflows<br />
outflows. So your base is not your investment, but<br />
rather returns, then why do you call this ROI (return<br />
on _investment_)?</p>
<p>You could do ROI=NPV/IV, but that&#8217;s not good either,<br />
because NPV has taken into account your RRR (required<br />
rate of return). Why dont you simply get IRR? It has<br />
its own issues too, and finance professors usually<br />
prefer NPV approach to proj financing.</p>
<p>sorry, for being a bit harsh with critique. however, I<br />
find your approach interesting, especially the<br />
relation to &#8220;ethics&#8221;. that&#8217;s unusual <img src='http://www.embeddedcomponents.com/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>thanks<br />
argyn</p>
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